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China Growth Slows Sharply

Bloomberg Markets and Finance by Bloomberg Markets and Finance
September 19, 2022
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Wei Yao, head of research and chief economist for APAC at Societe Generale, discusses China’s second quarter GDP and her outlook for the economy. China’s economy grew at the slowest pace since the country was first hit by the coronavirus outbreak two years ago. She speaks on Bloomberg Television.
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Comments 33

  1. J K says:
    3 years ago

    Xitler will wave a magic wand soon and it will be hunky dory

  2. JERRY RICHARDSON says:
    3 years ago

    I can see the xi and the ccp coming with a temporary fix or two for this, a long term solution is a very different matter.

  3. Qing Zhou says:
    3 years ago

    These experts could not even try to explain the number. 1) China is actively trying to depress the housing price to reduce the inequality/pressure on middle class. And China had been trying to de-level debt in past few years. This means if needed, China could relax the government loan and pomp up the housing market again at any time. 2) US is heading toward a recession, even with a 4% growth China is on the way to pass US in GDP within a decade.

  4. MrAmhara says:
    3 years ago

    Chinas growth might have slowed but its still much faster than the USA.

  5. tt says:
    3 years ago

    Does anybody actually belive china.

  6. Alex Walker says:
    3 years ago

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  7. 👤Anonymous👤 says:
    3 years ago

    FREE TIBET – Dalai Lama
    Stop Uighur Atrocities !!!!

  8. Apollo says:
    3 years ago

    And the rest of the world???

  9. Francis Liew says:
    3 years ago

    I don't know how you do your research. China first half SDP grew by 2.5%, certainly not 0.4%. You are hallucinating or sleeping. Read the data from the People's Daily

  10. Kona Boyz says:
    3 years ago

    She knows what she's talking about these other clowns well go figure…..
    CPA HAWAII

  11. Jay H says:
    3 years ago

    Xi supports Putin's killings in Ukraine and lies to his people that it's Nazism.

    How can u trust the country when the leader is lying & no freedom of press, speech, etc

  12. yzho105 says:
    3 years ago

    Dont trust the ccp official numbers.

  13. Rooney Walter says:
    3 years ago

    Drifting into the trading world without the help of a professional trader and expecting profits is like turning water into wine, you would need a miracle, that's why i trade with Samantha Jack, her skills set is exceptional.

  14. JAMCASE PRODUCTIONS says:
    3 years ago

    Thanks mate

  15. Ravinder Talwar says:
    3 years ago

    I pray Almighty God will set everything right now 💓🙏

  16. 戚文玮 says:
    3 years ago

    China was collapsing a few years ago😏

  17. JKD M says:
    3 years ago

    Only America has long term planning. USA !

  18. Sam says:
    3 years ago

    INVEST IN INDIA

  19. shoutout says:
    3 years ago

    Ummm and the downfall begins……

  20. Rodrigo Zurita says:
    3 years ago

    Thanks for share & post this very important Update. ⏰

  21. Shubham Sonawane says:
    3 years ago

    Downfall of China begins. And here we grow 🇮🇳

  22. Abhijeet Baruah says:
    3 years ago

    And here we are only talking about debt which is in the record books, hidden debt is going to be too big. For example the bullet train projects are not generating any revenue, some estimates a near trillion dollar loss.

  23. Global Asia says:
    3 years ago

    Depopulated them to 100m

  24. Intercessor Z says:
    3 years ago

    0.4% GDP growth rate in 2Q 2022 doesn’t match up with the level of activities at the ground level. This number is after Mr Li pumped in Trillions of extra capital into economy. Don’t know whether he has any more white rabbit hidden in his hat.

    Definitely, it is not the best time to catch this falling knife yet as Mr Xi’s ambition is to take back Taiwan by military might if needed be. Should he be crowned as the People’s Leader and got his term further extended, then it is the time to be as conservative as possible.

  25. Calvin SSS says:
    3 years ago

    Indeed China is at the state of financial system crisis. Overall of region debt + property assets debt is 3 folded over GDP which is about 5000 Billions in US dollars. Only way for China gov can be able to bailout property market take over private turn into nationalise slow down finance system crush down. Now President Xi is all set ready for 3rd terms in power is most matter than National Economic. He don't really care in case lock down all Customs Boarders prohibit all tycoons move out money and mandatory stop foreigner outflow capital from China. China is fascist country always remember

  26. Kha Le says:
    3 years ago

    This is the moment they have been predicting in the last 10 years. Finally it is here. In the US, I have a Chinese coworker who told me that he put his life savings into 2 properties in China and he has gained 3x for his investment. I asked him under whose name the properties are under. He said his relatives. I told him, "Wow, you are very trusting".

  27. Angel Evstatiev says:
    3 years ago

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  28. Angel Evstatiev says:
    3 years ago

    No Dolas no euro falf valuta China national vault bank Zurich kanton bank in China and China procekt ikonomik and national valuta jena and China 2022

  29. Dalvinn Kho says:
    3 years ago

    In the words of Tim Cook: "The popular misconception is that companies come to China because of low labor costs. I'm not sure what part of China they go to, but the truth is China stopped being the low labor cost country years ago. That is not the reason to come to China from a supply point of view, the reason is because of "the skill and simplicity in communication with understanding across all provinces."India ambitions to be next supply chain ,is had to deviate from social individualism ,in short give up colonialism of democrazy or be like China,break your own egg and embrace idiosyncrasy of capitalism in order be a beautiful omelette !!

    Because labor is only one part of the total cost of a product, and in many cases it's as low as 20% of the total cost, – this must indicate that there may be other factors at play in making Chinese products, such as the phone ,chips to sophisticated EV finished product. If labor were the only factor, then most of the “labor intensive” industries would have shifted to other countries – but only some industries already have e.g. Bangladesh, Vietnam and Mongolia to name just a few. To that extent, manufacturing of phone could possibly return to the USA; but that’s not happening.

    Industrial production does not take place in isolation, but rather relies on networks of suppliers, component manufacturers, distributors, government agencies and customers who are all involved in the process of production through competition and cooperation. The ecosystem of doing business in China has evolved quite a lot in the last thirty years. Here are the additional factors, including labor, that affect the overall cost of manufacturing and thus make Chinese exports cheaper:

    A. Commendable supply chain: Supply chain activities transform natural resources, raw materials, and components into a finished product that is delivered to the end customer. No country, at present, has a supply chain more sophisticated yet flexible than China. China’s biggest advantage is their domestic availability of most of the raw materials required to manufacture a given product [2]. Not only are private entities involved in the process of outputting raw material for manufacturing.
    B. Rebate upon Export: The export tax rebate policy was initiated in 1985 by China as a way to boost the competitiveness of its exports by abolishing double taxation

    on exported goods[7]. China is one of over 150 countries that utilize a Value Added Tax (VAT) system. It is a tax only on the "value added" to a product, material, or service at every state of its manufacture or distribution. The VAT rate is generally 17%, or 13% for some goods. Chinese companies receive a VAT refund from the government for materials of products produced for export. Basically, factories that export do not pay any VAT on goods or raw materials used made for export – further subsidizing raw material costs. American imports to China are charged a VAT, but the U. S. doesn't have a VAT to charge Chinese imports. Moreover, Chinese manufacturers work with far lower profit margins than those in the U.S.

    C. Efficient Infrastructure and Logistical Access: In its fast-paced effort towards industrialization, China has built many ports (big and small), roads and railroad access. Such a system is not secluded to the big cities (Tier 1 or Tier 2 cities), it connects all of them, including Tier 4 cities or small towns used as industrial manufacturing zones. Having an efficient logistical system allows for cheaper travel costs –the cost of units (kilometers or miles) per currency (dollar or RMB) decreases. Also, an efficient infrastructure reduces overall downtime. Such is the case of India, as pointed out by Vaibhav Mandhana [3]: “Given the poor roads, a shipment from India's north can take a week or more to reach India's south. Sometimes it is quicker and cheaper to actually get a shipment from Shenzhen than Kolkata. Time is money and all those delays add to your cost. If I could get something in two days, I could sell it immediately rather than wait two months to sell it [add up the interest costs]”

    D. Subsidized Utilities and Availability: Within China’s industrial areas many fixed and variable production costs are heavily subsidized. For example: electricity and water are subsidized up to 30% compared to normal household or commercial zones. Moreover, the local government gives support with land access at competitive rates, creating jobs in the area. This further helps to diminish the cost of the end product – after all you have access to cheaper land, water and light (What manufacturing does not require these? – Hell, even mining bitcoin does!). In non-industrialized or not fully industrialized countries (Indonesia, Vietnam, India), access to water and electricity remains a critical issue, until today. “In Coimbatore and other industrial places, you get power for like eight hours a day. That means the machinery lies idle for sixteen hours and that wasted capacity adds to the cost.”

    Do we see a trend of several factors, other than labor, which affect the overall cost of the product? Hold on, there are more!

    E. Bureaucracy: Barriers for entry in China, in this context, are extremely low. Although you need to fill out a huge number of papers (Customs Declaration Form, Land Annexation, Tax Filing, Compliance Related Documentation, Drawback/Rebate Forms, Annual Returns and etc.), the process is not complex. Relevant departments and accountability are there; you do not need to grease palms to get what you need; streamlined government policies are in place.

    F. Technology and Automation/ Skilled Labor: It would be unreasonable to discard China’s inter-connectivity between technological advancement and manufacturing capacity. They work hand-in-hand. Availability of the latest technology to manufacture products of a high quality on a large scale. And let's be honest, scalability can be a very important factor in deciding price of a product. Apart from technology, China has a large population, thus having a bigger access to a wide talent pool. Availability to a greater talent pool decreases the overall demand as there is an oversupply – again, denting the costs of the product. If you recall, Tim Cook's main reason for manufacturing in China is: the depth of highly skilled labor in the manufacturing space. To rephrase what Cook said: "No other country in the world besides China has the combination of an electronic component supply chain and large pools of skilled labor needed to make iPhones on the scale which Apple needs."

    G. Labor: It is comparatively cheaper to many so-called “developed countries”. You can have someone do the same labor task for a comparatively lower price than say Europe or the USA for that matter. This further brings down costs. As noted before, it is not the cheapest – but it is not the most expensive either. What is important to remember here is that labor in China, is skilled – although most laborers are not trained, but have learned by doing. When you outsource to China, you’re working with time-tested factories that have been producing quality products in similar industries as yours for years on end, and in massive supply.

    Where a labor task might cost you $8-9 USD/hour in developed countries, it will cost you $450-500 USD for an entire month in China (8 hours a day, 28 days a month). If you do the math, that’s about $2.19 USD/hour. Countries like Indonesia a semi-skilled laborer will do it for half, $1.05 USD/hour – but the manufacturing process will be influenced by factors all the factors mentioned.

    If cheap labor was in itself the key driving factor, a large percentage of the labor-intensive factories would have already shifted to cheaper labor countries and lower labor-intensive jobs would have returned to the countries such as the USA – because China is not the synonym for cheap labor anymore. But that's not what we are experiencing; only certain jobs within the manufacturing field are moving to South East Asia. A huge chunk is there and is still able to reap the benefits of various factors. It will take more than a cutthroat desire for emerging economies to set up a business ecosystem that can compete with China's.

  30. Paul Trout says:
    3 years ago

    The government has been lying for decades. Balloon about to pop

  31. Wallace Souza says:
    3 years ago

    I'VE BEEN SEEING POST EVERYWHERE ABOUT FOREX TRADING AND CRYPTO CURRENCY, A LOT OF PEOPLE KEEP SAYING THINGS ABOUT THIS TRADING PLATFORMS PLEASE CAN SOMEONE LINK ME TO SOMEBODY WHO CAN PUT ME THROUGH..?

  32. Prasanth says:
    3 years ago

    Do these guys really believed that China's Q2 will be 1.2%? I thought they are gonna end in a -ve rate. Unless the base effect kicks off along with artificial pumping of money I dont think they will achieve their 5% growth rate.

  33. LZ says:
    3 years ago

    And that is the reported GDP figure. The real GDP could be even lower.

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